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Radical Podcast - Ryan sits down with Brionna Morse

January 17, 2019

Radical Podcast - Ryan sits down with Brionna Morse
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In this episode Ryan sits down with Brionna Morse, a self mastery coach and host of The Rad Frontier podcast. Tons of in depth discussion around personal development, the challenges of raising kids with all of the technology access available now, and news ways to push outside of your comfort zones. Follow Brionna on Instagram @Brionna_Morse and follow Ryan @RyanAlford


In this episode Ryan sits down with Brionna Morse, a self mastery coach and host of The Rad Frontier podcast. Tons of in depth discussion around personal development, the challenges of raising kids with all of the technology access available now, and news ways to push outside of your comfort zones. Follow Brionna on Instagram @Brionna_Morse and follow Ryan @RyanAlford

 

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Ryan Alford [00:00:14] Hey guys, welcome to today's episode of the Radical Company podcast. It is not podcast Friday, it's actually podcast Thursday at least for us. Who knows we're in and what day you're listening? It's actually a Thursday here for us. I am headed to Legoland with the family tomorrow. I am actually excited about it. My wife and I planned it. She planned it, I should say and I came along for the ride, but now excited headed out of town. I am really excited about today's podcast joined by Brionna Morse, the Rad Frontier podcast host and the self mastery coach.

Brionna Morse [00:00:55] Yeah. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. 

Ryan Alford [00:00:57] So we're going to get into some different topics. Brionna is new to G-Vegas, also known as Greenville. Have you heard that terminology? 

Brionna Morse [00:01:06] I have. I've actually played in a G-Vegas tournament. 

Ryan Alford [00:01:09] I love it. I didn't know how broad that it spread. Some of my friends say it.

Brionna Morse [00:01:15] I think every town has that thing that, Greensville, G-Vegas background front. It was then tucky

Ryan Alford [00:01:24] So, I've been learning and absorbing some of Brionna's content here the last couple of weeks with her coming on. Welcome to Greenville. So you've been here for a few months, but it's good to have some different perspectives in the town- Fresh perspective. Greenville is booming and doing well. I think we're still stuck in our thought process a little bit. I've traveled a lot and I lived in New York and did some things outside of it. A lot of my friends had to. I just think we need different viewpoints and different perspectives and different experiences. So anyway, excited to have you both on the show and in the community, so to speak. So Brionna, originally from California, now doing self-mastery coaching, doing the podcast. I'd like to start this out by giving you that opportunity to give your synopsis, the Cliff Notes of Brionna. Tell us about it

Brionna Morse [00:02:34] As we talked about earlier, I was born in California and then my family picked us up and moved to a very small town in Idaho. It was small, very conservative, predominantly mormon.

Ryan Alford [00:02:52] More conservative than Greenville, South Carolina?

Brionna Morse [00:02:56] It was a small town. So when you pulled into the town, there was a sign that said, "Welcome to Wheezer- We love our kids." It was very family-oriented, very family based, and played sports. We were not allowed to wear the spandex compression shorts for volleyball because as our athletic director stated, our town wasn't ready for that type of change. So that says how conservative we were. I grew up on a farm. It was awesome. It was like the best way to grow up as a kid. I don't feel bad for kids that grow up in cities, but having the space to get creative and figure out what to do with your life is amazing. We live like 15 miles out of town. So nobody ever wants to play with us. Parents didn't want to take us into town. Nobody wanted to come to us...

Ryan Alford [00:03:41] All the way out there. 

Brionna Morse [00:03:42] So my brother and I had to get creative with what to do with our time, which brought me into sports, which was awesome. Then I got recruited to play volleyball back in California and moved to Thousand Oaks, California. Lutheran University is where I went to get my undergrad and then obviously fell in love with the beach and the work that I was doing in the psychology field and got my license out there as a licensed marriage and family therapist. That's the title that they licensed you under there. I lived there for 15 years before moving out here.

Ryan Alford [00:04:21] When you talk about being licensed and all that, what were your primary day to day like? Were you talking to a lot of couples? Or talking about kids? Was it a mix?

Brionna Morse [00:04:36] So my passion has always been working with youth. I started out working in residential treatment centers. There's a gap for those that kind of fall between the gaps. In school and their families, there's kind of that one kid that somehow just falls between the lines of where they fit in and being understood. So my private practice ranges from five year old to twenty three. That was my expertise, niche area.  I always worked with the parents. A lot of times I would have sessions with the child and then I would do like a 30-minute follow up with the parents afterwards or I'd meet with the parents on a separate time. My belief is when a parent comes in saying, please fix my child, I look at them first and say, "well, what can we do to change what you're doing in the home too? 

Ryan Alford [00:05:41] I was about to say what percentage of the time the problem is parents. 

Brionna Morse [00:05:45] Well, sometimes the interesting thing is there's always an IP, the identified patient that comes in, but it's never really that client that is having the bigger issues. It's stemming from something else. So a lot of times it is a very holistic approach. Looking at the entire family dynamic and breaking apart where their communication gaps are and where there are disconnects between who's feeling understood and not feeling understood. So it is really a whole family approach to things. A lot of times, the parents will drop off the kid and leave and I'll say, "well, make sure you're back because I need 20 minutes with you, too. I've got to send you away with what to do next." 

Ryan Alford [00:06:29] Yeah, it's fascinating. We talked leading up to this. We're working on a program with a good buddy of mine, Generation Success, which is trying to give personal development and coaching both on the personal development side and the fitness and financial side. These kids are going to school and learning topics that we learned 50 years ago. They don't really help them learn how to be functioning adults. So we're trying to flip the script with that program, which I would love to get you involved with. It's such a different time with smartphones, with the availability of information. When I was growing up, I played Nintendo. 

Brionna Morse [00:07:15] What was your favorite Nintendo game?

Ryan Alford [00:07:17] Mike Tyson's punch out. 

Brionna Morse [00:07:20] The fat man that you hit with... 

Ryan Alford [00:07:21] I could literally go through the whole thing, by the time it was like twenty minutes. It was crazy. I was like, "I destroy people. Little Mac running." He would do the job like training. I knew the whole thing. 0073735763 is the code. That's the code to get directly to Mike Tyson. 

Brionna Morse [00:07:42] Gosh, that was me and my brother with Contra. 

Ryan Alford [00:07:45]

Brionna Morse [00:07:46] Up UP down, left, right, left, right, and unlimited life. 

Ryan Alford [00:07:49] Contra was like it's like one A and one B. I can still get in that. I haven't played in twenty years. That is like blurring. But anyway, video games were around when I grew up. I think the smartphone and the connectivity and the information overload that's going on was too much.

Brionna Morse [00:08:12] The level of safety with which parents feel their kids have out in the community. Kids don't play outside like we played outside. There's the technology and then there's the community safety and just the change demographically and where kids put their attention. 

Ryan Alford [00:08:37] How do you unwind it? How do you put the genie back in the bottle? So, I have four four boys. In some pictures, we can't always fit in. We have 7, 7,  7 and 9. We have a modern blended family. My wife has a son from her first marriage and I have two for mine and then we have one together. His, hers and ours. He's kind of on the outskirts. He's younger. He doesn't always make all the pictures because sometimes he's with the babysitter. He'll listen to this at some point.

Brionna Morse [00:09:18] He will be like. "Screw you dad, you always get me out of everything." 

Ryan Alford [00:09:19] He is staying home and I am taking the older boys to Legoland. But where I'm headed with this, you know, the kids play tablets. They play video games. My nine year old is especially into it. I know it's our responsibility and we talked about this before, like how much accessibility we give them, but how do you unwind or put the genie back in the bottle once they've kind of loved that experience. They want to do that now. They want to get outside, too. So we do balance it. I think my wife and I do it. It's as good a job as anyone. We've got them in sports and they love that. But, I do worry and I think about it with Janice and the other programs, just kids in general. How do you unwind or how do you manage the video game interconnected world we live in?

Brionna Morse [00:10:11] Well, it's hard because schools use them too now. They're teaching with tablets. Part of it is generational. They're being introduced to it at younger ages. I think as parents, where you can step in is really teaching the relationship balance between what a human connection and what's real and what's going to provide you with intrinsic value and what's going to provide you with information. What happens is a lot of times kids get in front of these video games and somehow it provides an intrinsic value to them and an intrinsic motivation because they feel like they are a part of something. So I think what happens a lot of times is families nowadays are busy and jobs are more pressured. There's just a lot more, I think, called on us as adults, which then bleeds into the kids. So there is a disconnect between the family time spent and the extracurricular activities and where there's conversation being had. Instead, this technology is taking the place of some of that. So the intrinsic value that we got instilled in us as kids because we didn't have those distractions is being missed out on. Then there's this gap in their ability to communicate and their ability to solve problems and their ability to be connected to their emotions and their ability to be mindful of others and how their behaviors affect everyone else around them. There's this mess because their interactions are happening right in front of them with something that isn't real. There's almost like this mixed value. 

Ryan Alford [00:11:59] I know in some ways it's beneficial having that information available, having the learning tools. I love technology. But it also scares the shit out of me because they're just not ready. You mentioned the safety part. My wife and I were talking about playing these games where there's connected and kids are just like creepers on there, trying to do things like.

Brionna Morse [00:12:29] It's like silly, mundane stuff. My nieces and nephews will sit and watch YouTube commercials. I'm like, "how is this even entertaining?" That's what entertainment has become. It is like stupid shit. That's what's weird to me is like what happened to the entertainment that we used to create, whether it was like playing with our siblings. I mean, my brother and I, like I had mentioned, we live so far out of town. We would ride our dirt bikes in between the cornfields and see who could scare the other one out by hiding. We would go fishing and a lot of it was outdoors. If it wasn't, we would play cards. We played Gin Rummy all the time as a family. We miss out on that stuff because it takes more time. It takes teaching, it takes patience. We're evolving just as a human race of things being more pressured and time sensitive and all of that kind of stuff. Those connections are being lost. Again, technology is great. I wouldn't have a business without it. But we have to learn to set better limits for ourselves, I think.

Ryan Alford [00:13:38] Just to put a fine point. My kids and we play, and then they start playing and they're happy about it. Then, they forget about it

Brionna Morse [00:13:51] I don't know how many parents I work with, that once they take something away and their child forgets that it's not there. They end up doing things. But, then as soon as they reintroduce that video game or whatever it is, it's like, "oh, they're not coming out". You don't need to give it back to them. Didn't you see they were doing really great before? So yeah, it is interesting. I could imagine someone like you with four kids. How do you get quiet in the house? 

Ryan Alford [00:14:17] Well, with the blended family we have four half the time and one half the time. We have Nicole's son seventy percent of the time. Ash never goes anywhere, which is kind of a joke when I'm having stories like that. Ash never goes anywhere. It's like, we're shipping them left and right. We have balanced it out pretty good.

Talk to me about your coaching style. What's some of your philosophies? What's your approach and kind of this self mastery? That's really fascinating to me. I am a big believer in the personal development space. I try to really convey that with my social channels, the positivity. There's so much negativity out there and so much judging and so much all this. Talk to me about self mastery and what you do from the coaching perspective, some of those philosophies. 

Brionna Morse [00:15:14] I had told you earlier, since moving to South Carolina, getting my license has been a bit of a challenge. I've had to get creative and use a skill set that I know I was given for a reason because I do great work with kids and I love what I do. Over this last year in my own personal growth, because like you it's something that I seek, I had my own therapist for years and then I hired a coach instead and tried a different light and hired a business coach.  Business coaches, if they're really good coaches, are going to do very similar things to coaches and therapists because there's typically underlying things that we’re getting in the way of getting you to where you want to go. So along that growth period, there were a lot of my own learning lessons that I had to break down that working with children I'm great at. I can see it from the kid's perspective. I went through a lot in my own childhood that really helped me to understand their hurts and what they needed. I think because I'm so playful, I think about who they're trying to be in their family, in their community or with their parents. So I do that part really well. As I've kind of evolved and expanded into working with a lot more younger adults and people that have gone through similar things as I have I had to really get clear on where I was at. So a lot of what I do now with my clients is because of what I've learned. I get to use my educational background and all of my teaching and all of the training I've gone to. But I had to learn how to master my own self first. That took a lot of work. My philosophy now comes from a place of being able to look at where you're at and saying, "OK, like, what have I built and what have I established?" Because all of it was not for wrongdoing. Whether it's working or not working, I don't care about that piece. You've done something that's gotten you to where you're at, but you're not happy with where that is. So what are the things that you need to acknowledge and say thank you to about where you're at and who you are? What stuff do you want to start unpeeling and losing and kind of letting go of and shedding and then mastering those new kinds of qualities and skill sets and feelings, all areas. What is it that you really want that you can take that and become that next version of yourself? That's kind of what the Rad frontier is. That's what my business is about. A frontier is that space on the other side of where you're already settled and established. I help my clients to go beyond that line. Whether it's just kind of like as kids, how you would like run up to the ocean and then the waves kind of come and you run back because you don't want them to get you like, whether it's chasing it and then running back because it's a little bit scared, chasing it, running back, but eventually you're going to get your feet wet. Eventually, you're going to go to that first wave that hits you at your belly. Eventually, you're going to go under the first one and it might tell you around and then bring you up and be like, "oh my God, why did I do that?" You want to keep going further and further. That's what self-mastery coaching is and that's the work that I do is getting people to continue going beyond where they've been because you can only master yourself as far as you've currently gone. 

Ryan Alford [00:18:51] That makes a lot of sense. It's interesting using the word, you say frontier, I think pioneering like, trailblazing.

Brionna Morse [00:19:07] It looks like you got to lose the ox. In the Oregon Trail, you lose the ox. You might get malaria. Someone's going to die. That's what it's about. I learned this about myself and I see this in my clients as we start to identify with one set of beliefs about who we are and we take those and we run with them, but along the way we hit these pockets where it's like something doesn't feel right, but I can't change who I am because this is who I have created. It's how everybody knows me to be and to think of going any different direction is like wild to some people because it makes no sense. It would mean, your relationship might have to change a little bit or the way you parent might have to change a little bit or the way you are in your career might have to change a little bit. But, all of that is so benign sometimes because that's not who I am. But really, who are you? If you're open to the idea of it being something different to me, it's so much more exciting. Whether you know where you're going next with or not. That's what Frontier is. 

Ryan Alford [00:20:17] So I deal with this. I even had a post about this on one of my social channels, like with the more clients and people that I work with and even in marketing and whatever, the fear of and worry of what other people think is the common denominator that I see and everyone that I work with. Even on the professional level. I'm not their psychologist, even though some days I may feel like it, but there is this innate fear of worrying about what the small minority of people think, care or do about their own actions. Do you run up against that? 

Brionna Morse [00:21:01] Well, wasn't it funny as adults, it seems to get worse? We say we don't care, but we do. 

Ryan Alford [00:21:10] We all care. I don't get it from a position of saying things like, "I've just got to make it because I don't care what people think." We all care what people think. But, when it debilitates your ability to change in a positive way or to explore a new frontier or to do something because you're so paralyzed by that fear. I mean, there's a feeling of failure, there's a big starting point, but I think it comes back to this fear of what people think. 

Brionna Morse [00:21:39] Oh, totally. So when we first moved to Idaho, I was the towhead tan-skinned like neon clothing 80s to a tee kid in a farming community filled with wranglers, ropers and button up t-shirts.

Ryan Alford [00:22:02] Little House on the Prairie like? I'm seeing Michael Landon running through the field with his daughter, Laura Ingalls. 

Brionna Morse [00:22:13] Gosh! I could remember. When we watched that show, every time my mom cried, "why are you crying? It's not that sad." 

Brionna Morse [00:22:22] Oh! man, that's so funny. Yes, it was exactly like that, which is funny because where I was born in Simi Valley was where that show was actually recorded, Fun fact. But my brother and I were severely bullied. Bad, really bad. We didn't fit in. We came from a different place. People don't like new people.  I mean, I was called every name in the book, pushed around on the bus, and came home crying every day. It was horrible. Then, in my early twenties, I got my first tattoo on my back and I'm doing this job that I love. I'm going into homes helping these families whose kids are about to be taken out and either hospitalized or put into juvenile hall. I got pulled in by my supervisor one day. I think I was wearing a tank top or something. He said, "you know, a family called and said, they just felt offended by your tattoo." It's a lotus flower, by the way. 

Ryan Alford [00:23:24] So there's some secret potion. 

Brionna Morse [00:23:27] They didn't like that. I was raised in the church. I grew up very Christian. My family all goes to church. My brother works for a church. And, going back to what we were talking about earlier about asking for permission to curse. In my family's eyes, I'm not professional because of the language that I choose to use, and that affects the way that I build my clientele and all those sorts of things. It's interesting because it was after that interaction that I started to look back at all these things that I experienced over time where I was told that I couldn't be who I wanted. You don't fit in. You're not accepted. You're not doing what we expect you to do. What I realized was, I don't care. I don't care anymore. Why I don't care is because I had to give up the idea of how I identified with myself. When I moved here from California, I was married. I owned a home. I had a great set of friends, an awesome community. I had a bad ass career. I was very well known in my community for how I worked with kids. I left it behind and I came with the things that I thought were important, and then I lost all of those. I think what happens for us as adults is, we identify with what we care about because of what it looks like to the outside. If from the outside it doesn't look accepting, then we have to change something about it and we have to fix it because we want this social acceptance. People as adults that say they don't, they do. Because there's something about it that is missing for us to say, "if I don't have any of it, I still feel awesome." I think that's what happens is it is like if you can lose it all and still say, I really don't care because I'm happy with who I am and I don't need any sort of external influence, I don't need any objectionable influence of some sort, I feel really happy with who I am, that's when you can really feel alive. You can be happy with where you're at. I think that's what we struggle with now as adults is there's this growing feeling of like I'm not feeling fulfilled enough. There's something missing and I don't know what it is. And, I believe that comes from this lack of just being happy with yourself. We've gone for far too long filling it with relationships and kids and activities and all these other things. Then there's this missing piece, what is it? 

Ryan Alford [00:26:07] Yeah, it all starts with yourself. So I'm going to come full circle to where you talked earlier. You've got to get right with yourself and figure out a lot. It's popular, especially in personal development, but I believe in it like finding out your why and what matters to you and being able to separate exactly what you said. I don't remember the exact words you used, but the perception of yourself, separating like that away. Not the perception of what someone else thinks you should be or why you should be it, but like really getting down to like your core fundamental self and getting honest with yourself of what makes you happy and what you want to do and all of those things. If you can figure that out, it seems to all come together.

Brionna Morse [00:27:01] But that's not what we're ever taught. I think that's where your program is going to be doing some really cool things. I think we need to lose things and be challenged in order to really figure out what's important to us and where we can thrive more. But, if we could teach that at a younger age, I don't think as many people would have to suffer as much as I know I did. I always preface this when I meet with clients like I still have not figured this out. I'm still learning. There are still areas in my life that I 100 percent acknowledge that when I meet with my coach, I'm like, I've brought this up for the fifth time and I don't know I can't get out of it. I'm still figuring out the shift. 

Ryan Alford [00:27:51] The difference is self-awareness. 

Brionna Morse [00:27:53] Exactly. I think that's the piece. We're not taught to become aware of all those things that maybe we're interested in or that we want. We're kind of being shoved in all these different areas and as we grow up, it's like this is what you do and this is how you handle it. These are the things that are important. But it's like I wish that I would have been taught more about emotional resiliency at a young age. I wish that I would have been taught like there's going to be times when it gets really hard and you're going to want to give up and you're not going to feel like anybody gets you. Like, let's have a class where we just sit down and talk about potential things that might happen. Not to scare the kids, but to say, like somebody is eventually going to leave you. At some point, you're going to feel like you don't have the support or the money or the person that's going to help you get somewhere. We don't have any of that.  We're not prepared and maybe that's part of living. You don't get prepared for any of it. But, I think that we don't talk about it enough and then what happens is we start to raise these kids and people like me who hold things in, and then we don't express ourselves enough. We go into our relationships not communicating as great as it was. It gets passed on to our kids. I don't have children, and I'm grateful for that just because of being able to start over and leave where I was and not have to worry about that time. But, I also think that's why I work so well with kids, is that I see it from the kid's perspective. When I come in, I'm not trying to parent you because I know better than you. I come in because I can see what your kid is wanting. I'm going to communicate that to you in a way so that you can then go out and help your kid feel like they're being understood, because typically at the end of the day, that's what happens with all my kids. Whether they're aggressive or they're shut down or they're cutting or they're super depressed, it always comes down to that they just don't feel understood and they don't know how to communicate that. 

Ryan Alford [00:29:59] Where are you going with the podcast? What's the future hold? I'm going to have a multi part here. We're going to give you some plugs here at the end because people in Greenville need to be working with you. I know you can work anywhere but in this town particularly. We're going to get that word out. Any quick tips? I know there's no quick fixes to this stuff and they need to work with you, but is there diet, health, mental exercises, any quick tips? And then where we're going with the podcast. 

Brionna Morse [00:30:40] Let's see for the health and wellness. So, health wise, it's been interesting. I would call it my “health and wellness journey” for probably about six years. I was always an athlete, but I was an unhealthy athlete. After graduating from college, I used running as a punishment. I mean, I enjoyed it, but it was more like, "oh, I ate all of this. Now I have to run fifteen miles." And, I would run. I ran like sixty miles a week. I loved running, but the mindset behind it wasn't healthy. I had an unhealthy relationship with food. I learned over time as I started to explore things that I had to do with how food was discussed in my family and just what was a role model to me. A lot of us, I believe, are in some way chemically disconnected between what our brain tells us and our stomach is telling us. So, again, I'm really all about the relationship that we have. Self-mastery is about having the best relationship with yourself. So there's all these different relationships with people outside of you, food, fitness, health, all that stuff. When I became more aware of all of these areas that affect how I can treat myself, I began to practice that on some of my clients. When it comes to being healthy, there's this balance overall. That's what I work with the women that I have. Outside of doing mental health coaching, I work with women who have a struggle with losing weight. I don't care about the weight. That's not my goal with them. My goal is to help them develop a healthier relationship between themselves and food and fitness. These women all have a breakdown typically when it comes to the beliefs that they have about what they deserve. We all have a rewarding consequence system that we're born into somehow. So I start to break down some of those barriers. Then, typically introduce new ways to find being active. I generated the idea of running sixty miles was the only way that I was going to stay thin and be healthy and all that. You could just walk to be healthy. So we have to kind of break down those expectations of having to be like those supermodels that we see on social media.

Ryan Alford [00:33:19] I joke about that sometimes .I do my monthly post about kind of the fakeness of how everyone positions themselves and all that. 

Brionna Morse [00:33:32] It's too much. Even for me sometimes, I'll look for a second day. I want to be like that, but I'm like, "I really like pizza." Sometimes I want a Peanut Butter Cup and I don't want to be mad at myself for making that choice. I think that's the thing that we can learn to own our choices and be OK with them because our body responds to us. It really cinematically responds to us. So when we make a choice, if we automatically beat ourselves up over it, our body is going to hold on to that. Whether it's energetically or emotionally or it's going to hold on to that food. So the more that we can say, "OK, I made that choice, dang, that was so good. I'm glad I made that choice. Tomorrow I'll make a different choice." But today that felt really good. It's going to let go of it quicker. It's an interesting belief system that might sound woo woo for some but our body carries energy. We have to decide how we use that energy. Is it going to be a negative consequence sort of response or is it going to be with an accepting, gracious, more compassionate response? You could tell me your opinion on this. More people will seek out help when it comes to fitness, then when it comes to mental health or emotional health.

Ryan Alford [00:34:59] Oh, without question, 

Brionna Morse [00:35:00] But you can't because you can't see it.

Ryan Alford [00:35:03] It's the connection with the eyes. You can't hide. Look what I did. You see that. It's like real life and your friends see it and you see it and you feel it. But mental health, while I would argue over the long haul, becomes much more visible because of how the person changes. It's not as visible as it gets buried behind everything else and you push down. But I think people don't mind because they're like, "Look, I'm fat or I'm out of shape or whatever. Your physical thing is usually visual.  

Brionna Morse [00:35:49] I think there's something more personal to something's wrong with me that helps train me to build muscle or lose weight. It's almost to me and I could be wrong, but this is just my personal opinion, there's less of a responsibility that underlies training me to build muscle or make a meal plan, because you kind of are given all of it. Whereas in the emotional and mental place, there's this personification that something's wrong with me. But, in reality, it's much scarier to take the responsibility of actually making the changes yourself because you can't. Somebody that's coaching you over in those two areas can't change anything. You actually have to choose to make a difference. Whereas with training, the person is with you physically or providing you with the meal plan or whatever. You don't have to take as much responsibility. You're just doing what they tell you. 

Ryan Alford [00:36:50] It's not just the checklist on the paper and you can do it like I eat this amount in that time of day and it might be hard, but you can kind of check the boxes quickly. Those mental and psychological changes are not on a checklist, but they take a lot more work. 

Brionna Morse [00:37:08] Nobody sees them. We are in an era where we like to show off what we're doing. I mean, I'm not opposed to flexing my muscles after I go to the gym. 

Ryan Alford [00:37:20] So Murex. 

Brionna Morse [00:37:21] Yeah, I just don't do the booty pop thing like the girls do.

Ryan Alford [00:37:24] So, Rad Frontier podcast, what's the plans for the year?

Brionna Morse [00:37:30] I kicked myself for not starting this over a year ago. I wanted to do it again,

Ryan Alford [00:37:38] You had the sabbatical.

Brionna Morse [00:37:40] It was funny. There was a bit of judgment and obviously I didn't feel like I was in the right place. At that point, I felt like I couldn't motivate or inspire or provide people with the things that I wasn't doing yet, and I didn't want to be the hypocritical person. I'm not perfect and there are still areas that I'm working on and I share a lot of that. I'm pretty transparent in what I do because I feel like we're all in this together. We all have very parallel lives as much as we feel like nobody gets us or as much as we feel like we're on this track and like nobody else is there, that's like that's so not true. When I first started podcasting in June or July, I started with a friend of mine. I'm so grateful for her because I think she got me out of that belief that I couldn't get started yet. Doing a podcast with two people is really hard. I would see a client and get super inspired and be like, "oh my gosh, I want to record," but then I'd have to wait for her. So I decided to start over with the Red Frontier podcast. It's just a baby. 

Ryan Alford [00:38:56] We're just kindred spirits here at the RAD, right?

Brionna Morse [00:39:00] Yeah! It's just a baby.  I've got some guests lined up and my intent behind it is I want to have something like this where it's conversational, but there's also some learning involved. I don't know a lot of people here, it's going to be my way of just being able to get out and meet more people. I really hope that it takes off. I do some solos where after I've seen a client or there's something going on, I like to just share something like a 10 or 15 minute something. I just added one on motivation the other day and then I have guests on that. Have a great story too, because it always kind of shakes you up like, "oh yeah, my life's not as bad as sometimes I allow myself in. I'm not really dealing with that big of a challenge. So it's growing. 

Ryan Alford [00:39:56] Well, I really appreciate you coming on. How can people that want to get in touch or follow you and all those things connect. How do they find you? 

Brionna Morse [00:40:05] So, I've separated my social media a little bit because I just don't want my brand to be confusing. So my Facebook, which is just my name, Brionna Morse. A lot of people spell it wrong or pronounce it wrong.  My Facebook page is predominantly for health and wellness. That's where I do a lot of talking to those women that are struggling with weight loss. I just provide a lot of health tips. I'm big on health and probiotics and prebiotics. I talk a lot about serotonin and sleeping and all that kind of stuff. So if you're a health conscious person and if they're male, too, they can go. They'll love what I post. That's what's there. My Instagram, which again is my name, is more focused on my self mastery coaching and podcasting and stuff like that. 

Ryan Alford [00:41:07] We'll definitely check out Brionna Morse on Instagram and Facebook. You will get a wealth of knowledge. A lot of great experiences. We're excited to have her in Greenville. A lot of people listen nationwide, even some international stuff. I was looking at our analytics, but I'm sure with all the social channels, we're gonna be willing to work with. However, I'm sure you work with people in and out of the market, don't you? 

Brionna Morse [00:41:33] Yeah. I mean, 90 percent of my clients I see remotely. So we do Skype sessions and FaceTime sessions. It makes it easy for anyone with any type of schedule, which is what I like because sometimes it's hard to fit ourselves into the daily life that we have. So I've created a program that makes it a lot easier for you to put yourself first for a change. 

Ryan Alford [00:41:57] Yeah, I love it. We really appreciate you coming on. We look forward to getting to know you better in and around town. Let's do it again sometime.  Well, this is Ryan Alford. I really enjoyed today's episode with Brionna Morse. Check her out. A lot of good content here today. Follow us at Radical.Company at radical_results on Instagram. We'll talk to you next time.